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From our Listeners in Russia

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Topic tags:

Environment/Climate, Indigenous, Race, Education, Civil Liberties

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World - Ethnic

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I've heard that the show

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 8:24am

(1.) I've heard that the show Mitakuye Oyasin is going to be cancelled. I hope that is not true, because i've been
listening to that for a few months and love it! Atevs, Moscow, Russia
(2.) Is that true that the show "Mitakuye Oyasin" is going to be closed? I hope this is not true! It just cannot be so! I've been listening to it for a few months and it is great! I love the show, and the subjects are always so interesting. Svetlana Sevli, Russia, Komi republic, Vorkuta

(3.) I'm from your audience from Moscow, Russia, and I'm a big fan of the show Mitakuye Oyasin. Recently I heard that the show is going to be shut down, and I do hope it is not so. The show is just great! I've been listening to it with my friends for a while, and we hope to continue to listen to it.
Elena Pernei, Moscow, Russia

(4.) Is that true that the show is going to be cancelled? Just cannot believe it! It has been one of my favourites for a several months. I've been sharing the subjects brought up in the show with my friends, and we all find it extremely interesting! I hope that the show will go on, it must go on.
Maya Usova, Armavir, Russia
(5.) I was told that the show Mitakuye Oyasin is canceled due to some strange reasons, and I want to speak in the support of the show and its hosts. This show is just wonderful! I used to begin my Thurday morning with it, it gives me new ideas and thoughts. I just want it back.
Anna, Moscow, Russia
(6.) It was brought to our attention that the show Mitakuye Oyasin our family has been big fans of is going to be
canceled. The show and the hosts are just great. We were recommended this show to practice our listening in English, but soon we discovered that there were much more than that.
This show is absolutely exceptional, and such a show just must go on!
Alyona and Denis Lisanov, Moscow, Russia
(7.) I would like to speak on the behalf of the show Mitakuye Oyasin which is said to be cancelled on some strange pretext. I've been the follower of the show for half a year and grew to become a great fan of it. The show is unlike many others, and rises the issues that I heard of only there. I'm sure that the show is extremely benefetting all over the world as well as your community in Portland, Oregon, USA.
Alexander Caksi, Smolensk region, Russia
(8.) We are your audience from Moscow, Smolensk, Vorkuta, Armavir Russia, Kishinev, Moldavia, and Riga, Latvia. We've been following one of your evening radio shows Mitakuye Oyasin for about a year now, regardless of the time or language differences. As a matter fact it has been recommended and adopted by our English learning students who have found it not only helpful for learning a language, but quite enjoyable, exciting and insightful into indigenous cultures from the other hemisphere, with traditional songs and stories.

With regards to such a program we have learned to understand the true meaning of being "we are all related" and could draw attention of the people from this part of the world to the problems of your people.

In our understanding the "Mitakuye Oyasin" show is a collective representation of all North American indigenous nations, all peoples, not to exclude the host and guest of the show.

It has now been brought to our attention by inquiry that the Mitakuye Oyasin show has been canceled due to inadequate, despot, if not fascist, management. As far as we are concerned, the show is popular and has audience not only in three of our countries, but include broadcasting to Germany, Spain, Italy and Ireland and many others also.

Thus, the show being so popular not only in Portland, Oregon, USA, we can conclude that it was not a matter of its profitability or lack of popularity with the audience. It is our opinion, and it is a shame that a good and interesting show can be closed on some uncertain reasons, and all that is happening in the country that claims to be the nurturing cradle of democracy and justice.

Respectfully,

Larisa Ivanova, Riga, Latvia
Olga Chernokova, Moscow, Russia
Alexander Yazitchenkov, Smolensk, Russia
Alexander Krylov, Smolensk, Russia
Maya Usova, Armavir, Russia
Svetlana Sevli, Vorkuta, rebublic of Komi, Russia
Lada Budnikova, Moscow, Russia
Octavian Pernei, Kishinev, Moldavia
Svetlana Minakhina, Moscow, Russia
Evguenia Semenova, Moscow, Russia
All e-mail addresses have been excluded for privacy.
Here are some supporting websites where the information on possible cancelling the show were posted
http://my.mail.ru/community/mitakuye_oyasin/286269A39CF32F8F.html
http://my.mail.ru/community/lakotah/4AEC42CC8D713485.html

http://lakotah-russian.narod.ru/news.htm

https://jekki27.wordpress.com

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 8:39am

https://jekki27.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/kboo-cancles-mitatuye-oyasin-ra...

The definition of Facism

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 6:42pm

To my Russian friend;
A Facist is one who believes in the marriage of government and corportism. As KBOO is neither government, nor a corporte entity, this label is illogical. I would beg you to read Mousillini if you wish to learn more about Facism.

Please excuse my poor

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:58pm

Please excuse my poor English, I could not find the word "Facist" in the dictionary. Yet we do know something about fascism and fascists (there is an article in the wiki on the subject) and we are somewhat familiar with Benito Mussolini (if you meant him) as well as Adolf Hitler, who was the main ideolist of that.

English et al

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 6:01pm

Your English is fine and probably better than many others. I would submit to you that if you compare KBOO, a local community radio station to Facist Italy or Nazi Germany you would find no comparison. The two are diametrically opposite.
1) For one thing, KBOO is not a government or does it have the influece of a government.
2) KBOO is represented by a Representative Democracy, not a dictatorship which both Germany and Italy advocated during the 30s and 40s. Some members may disagree strongly with the deicions made by these elected members, but that does not mean that KBOO has ceased to be a Representative Democracy. The Board Members are elected by the membership to represent them for a 3 year term.
3) Some of these most vocal opponents to KBOO have rallied around the idea of having KBOO become a total Democracy... meaning that every member would vote on every issue no matter how small. Right now, these individuals are complaining how long it takes KBOO to do things. Imagine how long it would take if every member had to vote on every issue?
4) Most importantly, Facist governments use fear to control people. It is ironic that this is exactly the tactics being used by the most vocal oppenents.
Lastly, KBOO is about having diverse views. However, if these diverse views include hate speech such as we have seen on this thread, it would not support of listen to it.

Please help me to understand

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:33pm

Please help me to understand you and your point better.
1. If an organizaton has a board, does not it make it a governmental prototype? And if the station possibly gets federal funding, how it can be complety independent of governmental influence?
2. If an organization is a Representative Democracy, certain issues are discussed with the representatives, to whom members can turn and ask to bring the matter on discussion. The representatives usually listen to those who have elected them. Or does electing a representative means electing a "master"?
3. As you said above, the individuals have representatives, and representatives are elected to convey the views and ideas of those they represent. That's where I'm getting lost - are representatives not representing the views of individuals then?
4. Please make reference to any of threats or hate speech in this thread. If I ask you to stop stealing money from your colleagues' pockets, will it make such a statement true only because I typed it?
Besides if one searches Google for "kboo racist, fascist, despot... " etc. one will clearly see how many times KBOO radio within its own programs has used the following words and repeat them. Are you suggesting that KBOO radio's intent was harrassing, intimidating, and threatening...?

To Who It May Concern

Permalink Submitted by Alexander Krylo... (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 8:45am

We are extremely worried about the situation with the Mitakuye Oyasin show.
Here are the links in support of the show from your audience

http://my.mail.ru/community/mitakuye_oyasin/286269A39CF32F8F.html

http://my.mail.ru/community/lakotah/4AEC42CC8D713485.html

http://lakotah-russian.narod.ru/news.htm

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000429772676 - Eugenia Semenova
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000971604047 - Mary Klash
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1076896522 - Daris Reno Blickman
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001210503029 - Alexander Caksi
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000263460396 - Svetlana Sevli

http://www.facebook.com/NativeSpirits1?v=wall&story_fbid=142997472399158 -
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000563704725&v=wall&story_fbid...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001557855813&v=wall&story_fbid...

russian

Permalink Submitted by vovard (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 10:53am

Я присоединяю свой голос в защиту индейской культуры.Время насилия и беззакония должно уйти безвозвратно.Vovard .

Хочу вас поддержать,в плане

Permalink Submitted by chanpasapawin-Alena (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 8:57am

Хочу вас поддержать,в плане того,что я против,чтоб ВАШИ права ограничивали.Любое мнение имеет право на существование.Но некоторые наши сограждане до сих пор пребывают умом на уровне Средневековья,к сожалению.
Митакуйя оясин!И пиламайя за то,что Вы есть в нашей ЖИЗНИ!Индейцы всегда для меня много значили во многих областях КРУГА ЖИЗНИ....

Но мы их победим"No pasaran!"-они не пройдут!(испанский)!!!

To Who It May Concern

Permalink Submitted by Alexander Krylo... (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 10:05am

Руки прочь от наших друзей из радио-шоу Mitakuye Oyasin!
Мало вам ещё, проклятым wasicu, 200 лет издевательств и геноцида? Мало Санд-Крик и Вундед-Ни? Мало отобранной земли и священных Чёрных Холмов? Вы готовы отнять у индейцев последнее... Позор! И это всё - "в самой свободной и демократичной стране мира"! Чёрта с два у вас теперь это выйдет, от дохлого осла уши вы получите. Сегодня весь мир не только слушает индейское радио, но готов встать плечом к плечу с теми, кому земля, называемая вами Америкой, принадлежит по праву, а все мы - это коренные народы планеты!
Трибунал в Нюрнберге по вам плачет...
I'm Alexander Krylov, Lone Russian Wolf from Smolensk in the Russian Federation... Впрочем, вы не достойны нашей дипломатической вежливости и того, чтобы с вами говорили на вашем языке wasicu. Then, I'll speak with you in Lakota...

Suŋk'manitu Taŋka Russian Isnalati emaciyapi, Alexander Krylov emaciyapelo. Ma Lakota sni yelo, Russia emataŋhaŋ, Smolensk otuŋwahe hel wati yelo, Kuban Cossack hemaca, wana wagli yelo. Tak'owale wahi hwo? Mitakuye oyasin caheca tokahe! Welaka Lakota kiŋ uŋkitakuyepi hena keyas wasicu kokta uŋkitokapelo. Wasicuŋpi na itaŋcaŋ tapi akihaŋt'eyapi nahaŋ hena ecokon ayapi, yaupi na ukiya tuktetu kakes unkisnapila ahikt'epi, tokes Lakota kiŋ ehaŋnitaŋhaŋ hena nat'apelo, oiye tapi itonsni yelo.
Wicoh'aŋ siksica owe tonakeca waŋblake. Oyate iyohihila egna huŋh oh'aŋwastepi na huŋh oh'aŋsicapi... Ni yececa iktomi kiŋ na oiye wimatko siksica
itonsni yelo! Winicasa oh'aŋsicapi, wicasa sni, keyas mayaslepi kiŋ na hituŋktaŋkapi kiŋ hena. Inila yaŋka po, saŋ hiŋ sma witkopi, chepha kiŋ sunka-wičaša kaŋla
yamahel po! Hecetu welo!
REMEMBER WOUNDED KNEE!

Burning Bridges

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:34pm

What is being used here is intimidation to have a station that granted you a show to bring it back. Is this logical? Do you think that beating the war drums will work? Will KBOO suddenly open their arms and say, "Hey! Let's let these people that have spoken so poorly of our station have a show! I think that it is a dandy idea to give them a show because they have threatened us. Why not reward such threats with a show? Then, it will let every show know that if they are canceled all they will have to do is write to their friends in Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand to make a huge fuss about it so that everyone can keep their show and KBOO has no ability whatsoever to control its own policies."
Sounds good to me.

Burning Bridges, mmmmmmmmm

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 2:50pm

"What is being used here is intimidation to have a station that granted you a show to bring it back. Is this logical? Do you think that beating the war drums will work? " 
 
This comment has only proven our point of the racial intent, or a Pan-Indianism mentality within the ranks. 
 
""Hey! Let's let these people that have spoken so poorly of our station have a show! " 
 
You have never heard or seen me speak here, or are you referring to our radio show "Mitakuye Oyasin" 
"Why not reward such threats with a show? Then, it will let every show know that if they are canceled all they will have to do is write to their friends in Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand to make a huge fuss about it so that everyone can keep their show and KBOO has no ability whatsoever to control its own policies." 
 
None of us ever wrote friends in Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand etc.. another assumption by you?  So if you say it is, then it just is so? 
 
Or perhaps you are speaking to the international peoples who listen to "Mitakuye Oyasin" Who's English is a second language (as they have not been forced as of yet by Eurocentric boarding schools to assimilate.) and can sound quite broken, and perhaps not meeting your persona of superiority.  I dunno. 
 
Email or this type of correspondence has never been my chosen venue. Our peoples come from a long line of an affinity for connectedness and relatedness, "icitkokipapi" (they meet face to face.) being able to talk as men, women , oyate , tiospaye, human beings. 
 
It is not surprising in any way those who claim or profane Mitakuye Oyasin as proprietors; which also belongs to the our peoples.  Mitakuye Oyasin is neither a coin phrase nor a selfish propriety, but merely an acknowledgement of lakol wicohan ki. 
 
We are either sovereign or slaves in mind, heart, body and spirit: act the part we choose. 
“Mi” being the equivalent of “My”, “Takuye” being relative in simplest terms. “Oyasin ,understanding “All” 
All is relative including our indigenous friends from Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand etc.. 
 
The occupier has no “ohute takuye”, as they have also been killing and destroying their own kind since their genesis, “Olakolwicaye sni” (without care of relatives and natural affection.) It is not the People, and is not OF the People. The Enemy are not the Collaborators, lined up to just to strike their own, they just amuse themselves watching the lateral violence of peer oppression, just as they were taught by the Jesuits. To think, such a Beautiful Way Of Life like Lakol Wicohan was stomped to damn near death by Jesus. 
 
Now certain individuals of KBOO is attempting to own rights to , (Our Languge) as this has been their only reasons for canceling the show because one of the collectives of Mitakuye Oyasin resigned and attepted to claim it , while a manager of KBOO had all the fact infront of him that the show was a collective and has been a collective since 1994. Also once again the language belongs to the lakotah peoples and cannot and will not be taken hostage by anyone for any selfish or marketing reasons. We as indian peoples have seen the wasicu mentality of ownership since the invasion. 
 
These ways are ours as indigenous. As Lakota People, these are our Original Instructions. The leaf does not choose its root. We are who we really are, and there is no longer time to play. 
We have no desire to admonish, teach, reach, or preach to the wasicu. We need not mirror the wasicu and desire the trappings of the Occupier. 
 
Only those recognizing true Authority will be able to resist the false authority of the Occupier. 
 
The Way is a Way of Generosity and Commonality. 
 
Leadership is Responsible Fellowship. 
 
I suppose the Occupier will someday demand blood for our Freedom. So be it. 
 
"The colonists keep saying we and our ways are finished! They are 3rd generation immigrants who think they belong on Turtle Island keep trying to find ways to force us to join them and to be pawns in their games. Even after killing off over 100 million of us, we and our memories are still alive. 
 
Let's compare. There are two kinds of dogs. There are wild dogs that are free and part of the "natural world". They have the memory of running, playing and exploring vast territories. 
 
Then there are “domesticated” dogs, those pampered pooches that wait for the sound of the can opener so they can beg for their bacon. They won’t turn against their masters even when abused and beaten by them. They just keep wagging their tails harder and harder trying to be liked. It’s a kind of “wife” syndrome. They can’t even shit where they want. If it wasn’t for “pooper scoopers”, they’d be extinct. 
 
Today most dogs are domesticated and tied up. If they are let loose, watch out! They’re angry. They go crazy and they’re dangerous. Some don’t know what to do because there are no rules or enforcers for them. They just lie down and die. 
 
Sometimes the natural dogs try to break the kennel chains and invite them to “come run with us, doggie”. The domestics are trained to stay in the yard. Some get away and enjoy freedom. Some are too old and beaten down even though freedom feels good. The domestic dogs have litters that are content, well behaved and bred to live with chains on them. 
 
The master goes to dog shows and says, “I have a proven method to make them subservient”. They talk about new dog foods, new breeds, better security fencing, muzzles, the future of their kennels and the problem about those “wild” dogs that are giving their dogs complexes. 
 
They come up with ideas to get rid of the wild dogs. “Let's kill them all”. They really want to trek out onto their territory to expand their kennels. They try to breed the wild ones with the domestics. They are the authorities on how dogs are supposed to act. They surmise that those wild ones are not dogs at all. So what are they? Maybe they’re wolves!" 
 
I am just as certain if you want to continue this form of  venue you will also shut down my voice here also , but once again this is not my choice of venue.

wow

Permalink Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 3:58pm

Wow.
Don't worry about shutting your voice down online, KBOO seems amazingly tolerant of any written criticism on its own website.
If this unrestrained anger and written agression is any indication of what the content of the Mitakuye Oyasin show was about, then I would not want to hear it.

I submit to you

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 5:51pm

Your words betray your intent. Your use of "God" to validate your argument tells me that you are illogical and do not have the ability to argue effectively. However, I believe that somewhere underneith all of that angry that you are spouting there is a flicker of intellect that can be reasoned with. I may be entirely wrong.
Again, calling anyone that disagrees with you a racist is incredibly irresponsable. It shuts down debate and any room for plausible negotiation. What you have done is burn any bridge between yourself and KBOO. Any hope to rebuild this bridge relies on your ability to stop using hate speech to force the conversation to a standstill. Until you can do this, any argument you offer is illogcal and invalid.

The Wasicu will always

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:25am

The Wasicu will always contradict themselves, it is in their nature. While never truly being connected or related within themselves, or their relatives.
Do a search within this thread and notice YOU are the only one talking about god.
COINTELPRO?
Me thinks you would submit to anyone.

Escalating or Communicating?

Permalink Submitted by Ed Kraus on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:52am

Dean,
Last night's Program Committee meeting was ... akward, to put it gently.  However the final outcome of the discussion last night was in my opinion productive.  The confusion over the circumstances of some hosts leaving Mitakuye Oyasin was discussed, and a compromise achieved whereby the show would continue to air on a probation status (while the remaining hosts do some paperwork and the committee listens, as they do for any show in question).
In my opinion continuing the flame war online disrespects all the people involved in the process who listened to issues relating to Native American programming for over an hour last night.  Can I assume without resorting to Google that "Wasicu" is offered in a deragatory manner, and refers to non native people?  Please Dean, if you want people to respect your input, then us in the non-native communities deserve some respect back.
Yes, we are all one people, and sometimes even the closest of families argue and fight.  Let's put our energies towards our common goals of providing high quality radio to very diverse communities.
Ed Kraus

Your Point is clearly taken.

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 1:14pm

Please notice the shedule of time that I have replied and the order in which I have done so.  Also with clarity notice who I am responding to, two KBOO members, but especially one of  KBOO member, one who chooses to be on the members board. This thread was in fact for, as it is clearly titled at the top of the page. "Comments from our International Listeners and Supporters"
Also understand with clarity that google knows and understands nothing about our language. Wasicu comes from the word wasi icun , the fat taker, the fat chewer.  Now this word is know amongst all indigenous of the north american indians, adopted from the lakotah langauge.
There was a time when our peoples found a dying man in the wilderness. They took this man into the village and provided him a lodge, and brought him food for nourishment for his health and welfare. What they noticed is that he never ate. They brought him many types of foods thinking they would find something that he would eat, but he did not, yet he was getting healthier.
So the peoples decided to watch him, because this was simply unheard of. By observation they noticed was  he would awaken in the middle of the night and sneek in to the food storage area and cut the fat off of the meat and chew it down, filling his belly.
Now understand that in those days the fat was the most important part of the meat and was used in the making of medicines (not as we know medicines today) used in cooking , and used in many different ways.
Also in those days of extreme tempatures it was the fat that guarenteed the survival of our peoples.
What the peoples noticed was the Wasi icun, (a "mentality" , the wasicu ) the man did not want to recieve what was given to him, he wanted to take that which he percieved as his to take, the wasi icun has never stopped taking.
The wasicu or wasi icun is a mentality, they do not want some trees they want the whole forest, to own it; they do not want some land they want all of it, to own it;  they do not want some fish they want to own all the fish and the water the fish survive in.
They do not want one to have natural rights as human beings, they want to grant them.
You see regardless of what wikipedia or google has to offer, they cannot or will never be able to define our languge, our language is of a connectedness and realtedness, we know our relatives.
Here I want to share what we call an Ehanni Story. It is a story which is to show a Lakota how to think things through and understand the process of Relating: 
 
There was a day Iktomi was out and about. He came upon the sleeping Being known as “Eya”, or, “Mouth”, the Great Eater. It seems Eya’s way is to consume all, consume all Nations. Iktomi knew this, and being curious as he is, he went close to Eya as he slept. As Eya breathed deeply in his slumber, Iktomi could here Lakota being spoken somewhere in Eya’s belly. Turns out, Iktomi has great Affinity and Relatedness for the Oyate, so he got his stone-bladed knife and enticed Eya to in turn swallow him too. Once swallowed, Iktomi tried to convince the Oyate that they were actually inside Eya, but the People would not believe Iktomi, the one who likes to trick everbody and refers to all as ‘little brother”. So, Iktomi, seeing no way to convince the People, drew his stone knife and stuck it deep into the ground. Eya’s belly split open and the Nations of the world spilled out of Eya’s guts… 
 
Now this story relates today with one exception , iktomi has not spit the guts of eya, but we are seeing and witnessing such about to happen within the universe.
But my question is. why do I not see any such comments of peace by you to the ones I am replying to who have become instigators of this thread from KBOO or it members. I do invite you to read this thread and by the totality of the circumstances, through mind heart body and spirt to move with the same intent as you have with this post of yours.
I am grateful to you for pointing this out to me and I have recieved it well. I just hope that the same is applied to all equally and not just a selected or chosen one.

What has this station come to???

Permalink Submitted by Depressed (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:09am

"What is being used here is intimidation to have a station that granted you a show to bring it back. Is this logical? Do you think that beating the war drums will work? "

This comment has only proven our point of the racial intent, or a Pan-Indianism mentality within the ranks.

Iktomi

Permalink Submitted by LRW (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:04pm

Ni iktomi kiŋ hena iyececapelo... you are similar to thows spiders... na oiye ikte nitawa hena itonsni yelo... and your poisonous words are nontruth. Wicoh'aŋ siksica owe
tonakeca waŋblake... I've seen many bad things going on among people. Oyate iyohihila egna huŋh oh'aŋwastepi na huŋh oh'aŋsicapi... in every nation there are some well-behaved people and
some who are mean.

In what words you have seen the threat?

Inila yaŋka yo, hecuŋpi sni po!
Hecetu welo.

Hey you? where is my comment?

Permalink Submitted by LRW (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 10:51am

Где мой последний комментарий в защиту шоу Mitakuye Oyasin?! Совсем уже совесть потеряли, wasicu? Где же ваша хвалёная свобода? Наверно, там же, куда вы себе засунули мой комментарий?

Hi- I would like to thank the

Permalink Submitted by Development on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 11:10am

Hi-
I would like to thank the comments from our Russian listeners, however, there are very few people that speak or read the Cyrillic Alphabet and so while your commments maybe very valuable and insightful, many of ous do not know what they say. If possible please comment in English.

Bu şov kapatmak gerçekten

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 11:27am

Bu şov kapatmak gerçekten ayıptır! Onu rahat bırakın, baksana bir sürü insanlar onu severler! Hemde fikirler çok önemli ve güzeldir! Ama gerçekten çok ayıp!
Ve dil konusunda şöyle söyleyim - bir şey öğrenmek isterseniz haydi kendiniz gidip öğren!

Bu şov kapatmak gerçekten

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 11:27am

Racism is like a poisonous

Permalink Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 12:11pm

Racism is like a poisonous snake that bites the commandment: "We are all children of one Creator" ...and as an antidote to the words: "We all - one blood !We are all relatives! We Are All Related !Mitakuye Oyasin!"MITAKUYE OYASIN FOREVER! Alexander Caksi

So Are Rumors

Permalink Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 6:31pm

So Are Rumors

Whoo hoo! So it is just

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 2:02pm

Whoo hoo! So it is just rumors that the show is going to be canceled?

The boy who cried wolf

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 6:39pm

The previous statement about the cancelation of Mitakuye Oysain was totally correct. When the show was created it was a "Collective" meaning that several hosts... in this case 5 joined together as a team to run the show. When three of these hosts quit, the broke their original show proposal. They have always had the right to resubmit.
I get tired of hearing people use the term racist or "ethnic cleansing" to describe anything they do not agree with. It makes me question liberal values at all when people can be so extreme that there is NO difference between them and their right-wing counter parts that make up facts on a whim and claim God as their own personal representative. This is hate speech pure and simple.
If you wish to continue talking about matriarch ad nausem, please put in another show request with only one host. I am sure that it will be approved.

http://kboodotinfo.blogspot.c

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 4:01pm

http://kboodotinfo.blogspot.com/   
 
The Wasicu  will always contradict themselves,it is in their nature. While never truly being connected or related within themselves or their relatives. 
 
"ps : jim craven deserves an individual posting for his extraordinary courage in defying orders from the old regime to shut the fuck up 
 
i am told by one of the other original whistleblower candidates that kboo old regime cancelled jim's longstanding kboo program instantly without warning to punish him for his defiance.  in my opinion, i do not have quite enough hard evidence yet to state that as a fact ... but i'm getting there 
 
there is a specific other candidate, not of the original whistleblowers, that I would dearly love to endorse   
 
but for reasons i stated in candidate forum tue eve i think that candidate's chances of election are better if i do not"
Jim Craven is my brother, my relative. Most all of Jim Cravens work as an indiigenous has been about genocide and  "ethnic cleansing" of our own peoples and all over the world.  You make act as if it does not exist, perhaps that again is part of your nature to justify , that I dunno. 
It seems that all your post you  tend to depict that such things do not exist ,, but yet you have knowledge that thety do.
Perhaps you are just telling me and other members of Mitakuye Oyasin to shut the @#$% up. could  you be part of the same Regime?

http://kboodotinfo.blogspot.c

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 4:07pm

http://kboodotinfo.blogspot.com/  
 
The Wasicu  will always contradict themselves,it is in their nature. While never truly being connected or related within themselves or their relatives. 
 
"ps : jim craven deserves an individual posting for his extraordinary courage in defying orders from the old regime to shut the fuck up 
 
i am told by one of the other original whistleblower candidates that kboo old regime cancelled jim's longstanding kboo program instantly without warning to punish him for his defiance.  in my opinion, i do not have quite enough hard evidence yet to state that as a fact ... but i'm getting there 
 
there is a specific other candidate, not of the original whistleblowers, that I would dearly love to endorse   
 
but for reasons i stated in candidate forum tue eve i think that candidate's chances of election are better if i do not"
Jim Craven is my brother, my relative. Most all of Jim Craven's work as an indiigenous has been about genocide and  "ethnic cleansing" of our own peoples and all over the world.  You make act as if it does not exist, perhaps that again is part of your nature to justify , that I dunno.
It seems that all your post you  tend to depict that such things do not exist ,, but yet you have knowledge that they do.
Perhaps you are just telling me and other members of Mitakuye Oyasin to shut the @#$% up. could  you be part of the same Regime?

Misuse of the word regime

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 5:46pm

I get tired of seeing far left-wing extremists using the exact same tactics as their far right-wing counter parts in evoking "God" and using fear to dominate would should otherwise be logical, well reasoned discussion. I can tell you from experience, no one listens to someone that cannot control their passions except those that live in fear.
KBOO is not a regime. A regime runs a government. KBOO and its Board of Directors are not a government. They are an organization. It is obvious to me that you have not witnessed any other organizations with boards of directors in action. I can tell you that KBOO BOD is... despite its most recent tubulence far more open than any other that I have ever seen.
If you wish to declare me a "part of the same Regime" go ahead. Keep misusing this word. I hope that the KBOO membership as a whole will see through these word games that you have begun and continue. I have faith the membership is smart enough to do so.

And then when you awake what happens?

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:16am

KBOO Radio mirrors the very government that it embraces for non profits status.  It is a microcosm of the government.by design, stucture, and operrations,   It takes one to know one.
I have neither the time or the paitence to awaken you from your dream state, nor do we have an  online petiton to the wasicu for this. No plea to the wasicu to recognize us. No cry for the wasicu to set us free, or to “make us sovereign”. No desire to admonish, teach, reach, or preach to the wasicu. We need not mirror the wasicu and desire the trappings of the Occupier. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization
<h3>Formation and structure</h3>
In the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, nonprofit organizations are formed by incorporating in the state in which they expect to do business. The act of incorporating creates a legal entity enabling the organization to be treated as a corporation under law and to enter into business dealings, form contracts, and own property as any other individual or for-profit corporation may do.
Nonprofits can have members but many do not. The nonprofit may also be a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_%28law%29_USA" title="Trust (law) USA" class="mw-redirect">trust</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association" title="Voluntary association">association</a> of members. The organization may be controlled by its members who elect the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors" title="Board of Directors" class="mw-redirect">Board of Directors</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Governors" title="Board of Governors" class="mw-redirect">Board of Governors</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees" title="Board of Trustees" class="mw-redirect">Board of Trustees</a>. Nonprofits may have a delegate structure to allow for the representation of groups or corporations as members. Alternately, it may be a non-membership organization and the board of directors may elect its own successors.
A primary difference between a nonprofit and a for-profit corporation is that a nonprofit does not issue stock or pay dividends, (for example, The Code of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Virginia" title="Commonwealth of Virginia" class="mw-redirect">Commonwealth of Virginia</a> includes the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stock_corporation" title="Non-stock corporation">Non-stock Corporation</a> Act that is used to incorporate nonprofit entities) and may not enrich its <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managing_director" title="Managing director">directors</a>. However, like for-profit corporations, nonprofits may still have employees and can compensate their <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managing_director" title="Managing director">directors</a> within reasonable bounds.
The two major types of nonprofit organization structure are membership and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board-only" title="Board-only">board-only</a>. A membership organization elects the board and has regular meetings and power to amend the bylaws. A board-only organization typically has a self-selected board, and a membership whose powers are limited to those delegated to it by the board. A board-only organization's bylaws may even state the organization has no membership, although the organization's literature may refer to its donors as "members"; examples of such structures are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairvote" title="Fairvote" class="mw-redirect">Fairvote</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-4">... id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-5">... and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organization_for_the_Reform_of_Mar... title="National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws">National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws</a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-6">... The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Nonprofit_Corporation_Act" title="Model Nonprofit Corporation Act">Model Nonprofit Corporation Act</a> imposes many complexities and requirements on membership decision-making. Accordingly, many organizations , such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia" title="Wikimedia" class="mw-redirect">Wikimedia</a>,<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-7">... have formed board-only structures. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Parliamentarians" title="National Association of Parliamentarians">National Association of Parliamentarians</a> has raised concerns about the implications of this trend for the future of openness, accountability, and understanding of grassroots concerns in nonprofit organizations. Specifically, they note that nonprofit organizations, unlike business corporations, are not subject to market discipline for products and shareholder discipline over their capital; therefore, without membership control of major decisions such as election of the board, there are few inherent safeguards against abuse.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-8">... id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-9">... A rebuttal to this might be that as nonprofit organizations grow and seek larger donations, the level of scrutiny rises, including expectations of audited financial statements.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization#cite_note-10"><span...

Not so mysterious, after all.

Permalink Submitted by One voice for r... (not verified) on Mon, 09/13/2010 - 1:13pm

It's very nice to hear from so many "listeners". I thank you all for taking the time to respond to this thread. Please allow me the same opportunity.
It would be interesting to ask where you heard this information that Mitakuye Oyasin had been mysteriously cancelled under suspiscious circumstances by tyranical management because the only person(s) knowing that the show wouldn't be airing were the hosts of the program, who would seem to be a bit biased in their reporting of the facts at hand.
The reason the show wasn't aired was because THREE of the FIVE hosts of the show quit! With less than three hours until air-time, in fact! They sent e-mails and refused to show up. It's not so surprising that the show might not have aired with this knowledge in mind, but it did air. The show was suspended an entire week later, after little had been done to correct the last week's issues. Having one of those three people return to the show and cry "Foul" seems a bit irrational but blogs are not known for any semblance of rationality.
The "other" Indian show that you mention being cancelled is also being falsely labeled as such. It wasn't cancelled. It was on "Audition Status" which means that it was given air-time to find an audience of their own. It wasn't cancelled. It was merely replaced by the other shows which are also "auditioning" for that time slot. No decission has been made on these shows that should rile any feathers (pun not intended).
There are less than 170 hours in every week of the year and there are 300 hours of show that people want to get on the air, in that time. Both Indian shows have been given a great deal of air-time and neither show has been "killed" mysteriously.
Thanks for that opportunity. Feel free to attack in whatever un-informed way you choose to.
VoR.

Dear Vor,

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 2:55am

It was very nice to hear you speak on the subject indeed.

Perhaps bad news travels fast, and it is not surpising that this news has spread so quickly, while even reaching the Russian listeners that you had disrepectfully put in inverted commas. If you don't like something it doesn't mean that such doesn't exist or should be disregarded. Everyone who has been following the show for quite a long time is biased when it comes to cancellation of one of their favorite shows. Besides, we still keep our old tradition to stand up and support our friends.

Please do help us to be more informed. Is there any bylaw that determines the number of the hosts for Mitakuye Oyasin show? Or, do you suppose that having the more hosts the better? Or perhaps the show could not possibly continue without all the host present?

It appears transparently clear that the radio station is governed by membership board. This information is in open access on the KBOO website. Perhaps it can also be assumed that such issues just cry out to be discussed on the board and that no show should be "replaced" or "suspended" without a previous discussion at the board. Was this procedure followed through?

Besides, we were also rather excited to see that some of our posts were deleted and then "mysteriosly" reappeared; proving the very points of our comments. Perhaps this could be a fine illustration to your meaning of transparency and being "uninformed".

Seyti,

Permalink Submitted by Voice (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:32am

You misunderstand my meaning of "listeners". I do not belittle any listener from any country. I was pointing out that no "listener" had heard that the show was cancelled. Only "insiders" had heard anything of the kind. Yet, once the show failed to air, you have a dozen listeners shouting about fascist despots killing the show.
See? That's the funny part. The fan base had no other posts on Lookinghawk's blog for several months yet once the show failed to appear (without a single word being uttered about being cancelled, postponed, delayed or on vacation) everyone was up in arms about how tyrants and despots ruled KBOO and that the show had been unfairly ripped from the airwaves. Kind of a sudden rush to judgement, it would seem. Kind of an inside agitator, one would assume. Kind of uninformed of what had happened inside the halls and entirely dependent on what one angry person must have incited.
I'm sure that you know the bylaws better than I but I can't even imagine a station that would write a bylaw that stated "when the hosts of the show quit, we should probably sit on our hands and wait them out... just to be transparent." I can see where you would cry out. I keep my magic wand shoved up my butt for exactly this kind of emergency. When things go arwry, I pull it out and make everyone go back to work as if nothing had happened and no one had walked out on their own show. Only tyranical despots would fail to keep a magic wand at hand as I do.
I would be more concerned about where your previous fan posts were. Before everything hit the fan.

censorship and opinion engineering......

Permalink Submitted by Yvette Maranowski (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 1:51pm

You can't claim that the fan base didn't show any support because KBOO censors such support.
So, I see that you're uninformed about this censored support, and that the censoring has helped to fan your flames.
I would say then, that the censoring has harmed KBOO by driving wedges and causing folks to fight when there is nothing to fight about.
If I were you, I wouldn't be mad at KBOO members and supporters. I would be mad at the folks who kept you in the dark and caused you to fight, lose friends, and thought so low of you that they didn't think you deserved the basic freedom of thinking your own thoughts.

Censorship

Permalink Submitted by Devin Russo (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 5:41pm

If censorship was a rule of thumb at KBOO, why are your comments appearing?

Voice,

Permalink Submitted by Seyti (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 3:43pm

As for me, I always used to be more of a listener than a writer. I just enjoyed the show, shared and discussed the ideas with my friends. If it occurred to me before that I should have left a comment every time I listened to the program, I would certainly do so. Only the last events made me speak up.

Besides, I frequented the page of the show, and never saw 5 hosts that were mentioned below; there were only 4 names for many months, and the show was successfully run. Yes, there were programs with five persons hosting, but the fifth name never appeared on the page. So are the three hosts of four resigning at the same time?

This is just simple logic.

P.S. Magic wand in your butt? Sorry maybe it is cultural difference but we don't have habits like that and I'm not sure if I want to pick it up.

Untruths

Permalink Submitted by Lookinghawk (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 2:47pm

"The reason the show wasn't aired was because "THREE of the FIVE hosts of the show quit!  With less than three hours until air-time, in fact!  They sent e-mails and refused to show up.  It's not so surprising that the show might not have aired with this knowledge in mind, but it did air.  The show was suspended an entire week later, after little had been done to correct the last week's issues. " 
 
This is an outright untruth! The person who writes this untruth knows such it is untruth, this can be and will be refuted publically with all email correspondence of transparency if need be? 
 
I would ask that this statement be corrected. 
 
Also I have failed to see any threats or intimidation to KBOO as some post below have suggested" 
 
BURNING BRIDGES:"What is being used here is intimidation to have a station that granted you a show to bring it back. Is this logical? Do you think that beating the war drums will work? " 
 
This comment has only proven our point of the racial intent, or a Pan-Indianism mentality within the ranks. 
 
""Hey! Let's let these people that have spoken so poorly of our station have a show! " 
 
You have never heard or seen me speak here, or are you referring to our radio show "Mitakuye Oyasin" 
"Why not reward such threats with a show? Then, it will let every show know that if they are canceled all they will have to do is write to their friends in Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand to make a huge fuss about it so that everyone can keep their show and KBOO has no ability whatsoever to control its own policies." 
 
None of us ever wrote friends in Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand etc.. another assumption by you?  So if you say it is, then it just is so? 
 
Or perhaps you are speaking to the international peoples who listen to "Mitakuye Oyasin" Who's English is a second language (as they have not been forced as of yet by Eurocentric boarding schools to assimilate.) and can sound quite broken, and perhaps not meeting your persona of superiority.  I dunno. 
 
Email or this type of correspondence has never been my chosen venue. Our peoples come from a long line of an affinity for connectedness and relatedness, "icitkokipapi" (they meet face to face.) being able to talk as men, women , oyate , tiospaye, human beings. 
 
It is not surprising in any way those who claim or profane Mitakuye Oyasin as proprietors; which also belongs to the our peoples.  Mitakuye Oyasin is neither a coin phrase nor a selfish propriety, but merely an acknowledgement of lakol wicohan ki. 
 
We are either sovereign or slaves in mind, heart, body and spirit: act the part we choose. 
“Mi” being the equivalent of “My”, “Takuye” being relative in simplest terms. “Oyasin ,understanding “All” 
All is relative including our indigenous friends from Russia, France, Turkey or Thailand etc.. 
 
The occupier has no “ohute takuye”, as they have also been killing and destroying their own kind since their genesis, “Olakolwicaye sni” (without care of relatives and natural affection.) It is not the People, and is not OF the People. The Enemy are not the Collaborators, lined up to just to strike their own, they just amuse themselves watching the lateral violence of peer oppression, just as they were taught by the Jesuits. To think, such a Beautiful Way Of Life like Lakol Wicohan was stomped to damn near death by Jesus. 
 
Now certain individuals of KBOO is attempting to own rights to Mitakuye Oyasin,(Our Languge) as this has been their only reasons for canceling the show because one of the collectives of Mitakuye Oyasin resigned and attepted to claim it , while a manager of KBOO had all the fact infront of him that the show was a collective and has been a collective since 1994. Also once again the language belongs to the lakotah peoples and cannot and will not be taken hostage by anyone for any selfish or marketing reasons. We as indian peoples have seen the wasicu mentality of ownership since the invasion. 
 
These ways are ours as indigenous. As Lakota People, these are our Original Instructions. The leaf does not choose its root. We are who we really are, and there is no longer time to play. 
We have no desire to admonish, teach, reach, or preach to the wasicu. We need not mirror the wasicu and desire the trappings of the Occupier. 
 
Only those recognizing true Authority will be able to resist the false authority of the Occupier. 
 
The Way is a Way of Generosity and Commonality. 
 
Leadership is Responsible Fellowship. 
 
I suppose the Occupier will someday demand blood for our Freedom. So be it. 
 
"The colonists keep saying we and our ways are finished! They are 3rd generation immigrants who think they belong on Turtle Island keep trying to find ways to force us to join them and to be pawns in their games. Even after killing off over 100 million of us, we and our memories are still alive. 
 
Let's compare. There are two kinds of dogs. There are wild dogs that are free and part of the "natural world". They have the memory of running, playing and exploring vast territories. 
 
Then there are “domesticated” dogs, those pampered pooches that wait for the sound of the can opener so they can beg for their bacon. They won’t turn against their masters even when abused and beaten by them. They just keep wagging their tails harder and harder trying to be liked. It’s a kind of “wife” syndrome. They can’t even shit where they want. If it wasn’t for “pooper scoopers”, they’d be extinct. 
 
Today most dogs are domesticated and tied up. If they are let loose, watch out! They’re angry. They go crazy and they’re dangerous. Some don’t know what to do because there are no rules or enforcers for them. They just lie down and die. 
 
Sometimes the natural dogs try to break the kennel chains and invite them to “come run with us, doggie”. The domestics are trained to stay in the yard. Some get away and enjoy freedom. Some are too old and beaten down even though freedom feels good. The domestic dogs have litters that are content, well behaved and bred to live with chains on them. 
 
The master goes to dog shows and says, “I have a proven method to make them subservient”. They talk about new dog foods, new breeds, better security fencing, muzzles, the future of their kennels and the problem about those “wild” dogs that are giving their dogs complexes. 
 
They come up with ideas to get rid of the wild dogs. “Let's kill them all”. They really want to trek out onto their territory to expand their kennels. They try to breed the wild ones with the domestics. They are the authorities on how dogs are supposed to act. They surmise that those wild ones are not dogs at all. So what are they? Maybe they’re wolves!" 
 
I am just as certain if you want to continue this form of  venue you will also shut down my voice here also , but once again this is not my choice of venue.

Lies

Permalink Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 09/14/2010 - 3:35pm

This individual VoR is simply lying. The show in question went on as scheduled, one of the regular co-hosts was on his way to the station for the show but took ill and called the others, he had not resigned. The show went on and yet the next week was summarily cancelled based on untruthful representations that were proved to be such prior to the show the next week being cancelled, but the show was summarily cancelled anyway. The continuation of the show is under review. The other show Indian World was cancelled not put on hiatis or audition status according to one of the hosts on the day of notification of cancelation. When some of the hosts of the other show objected to Indian World being cancelled without cause or any chance for mentoring, all of a sudden the status of Indian World was changed to "audition" phase.
Like many co-ops in America, the land of ultra-individualism and ultra-dysfunction, KBOO has some elements that seem not to understand that lies and liars eventually get exposed with raw facts that even their supporters cannot ignore. Each lie begets new lies to cover the previous ones which is why pathological liars need good memories and IQs over room temperature to be able to pull off their stuff ove rany period of time. In some of these cases, they appear to lack both capacities.

Who chooses what comments air?

Permalink Submitted by Concerned (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 3:48am

Why was my question about Cantidate forums not posted/answered??????

what was your question? was

Permalink Submitted by Development on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:00am

what was your question? was it posted on the forum page? if so i have answered all the questions on that page.

Does KBOO no have a Program Director??????

Permalink Submitted by Concerned (not verified) on Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:00am

Why are we simulcasting a show (HARD KNOCK RADIO) that has nothing to do with the NW community while bumping shows (MITAKWE ASIN) that encumpass the wisom of OUR elders combined with current events and the state of our state/nation? Is KBOO choosing what information it wants broadcast? Based on What? Listeners? Members? Comments? $$$$? If Information had a price KBOO would be commercial!!!